I hunt in Germantown, NY. Opening weekend I saw a bunch of Toms strutting and gobbling, but too far away. I didn't get close to filling my tags until the third weekend. I shot a 21lb Tom with a 9 1/2" beard and 1 1/2' spurs. There were three of them, and I took the largest. After that, they disappeared. I had my last chance to fill my second tag this past weekend. There were a couple of Toms around. Heard them in the woods but did not see them. Every time they gobbled, I called and then they would clam up. I'm done for the season but I'm happy that I will have another tail fan on my wall soon.