i tell u what im a big bowtech fan and i was at cabelas in wheeling WV last night shooting some of the new bows, and they brought out the new diamond ice storm a cabelas exclusive bow, that looks exactly like the black ice, one of diamonds best selling bows ever, same cam, same limbs, simular risor, same grip, it shoot great, and the complete package (tru glo 5 pin sight, wb rest, diamond stab., quiver) was $599, thats a heck of a deal seeing how the black ice is $649 bare bow