Simple answer, people don' t go poppin' off at a herd 200 yards away with a bow an' arrer, or a round ball either. They unnerstand the limitations of their weapon. What yall are doin' here is confounding that unnerstanding, not clarifyin' it. 30-30 hunters will wound an' maim by misunderstanding their' s an' their rifle' s limitations. Show me a 30-30 hunter that stalks within 20 yards an' only shoots at a clear target (like a bow hunter) an' I' ll say that feller has the makins of a real hunter. Show me one who tries to use it like a 7 mag an' I' ll show you somebody raised up on innernet hunting forums instead of the real world.