Chuck have you tried any of those streamers? They work great for any kind of fish up here. We know cold water fishing up in these parts of the country. We expect the water to be cold for quite a while up here. Fish appear to like the red and white colors during the early part of the season here. I would try a slow troll with one of those streamers with a split shot about a foot or foot and a half above it. Any ways sorry to here about your luck. I was not going to post on this until I am ready to post a fish up for the tourney. I saw where the guy was asking about stocked trout fishing so i decided to respond for a quick minute..