I have said this many times. The Rem. Wingmaster HD's pattern great with my 870 and Jellyhead choke. I have always shot the Rem. Hevi shot magnums, but they don't make them anymore. The only shell that has patterned better than them has been the HD's. BTW, I shoot 3 1/2'' 6 shot with the HD's. I shoot 5 shot with the mags. For some reason, the Jellyhead and 870 doesn't like the Hevi 13's too well.