Bought a Taurus 709 slim this week and am pleased so far. It is very concealable at just 19 oz and less than an inch thick. Ran about 60 rounds through it yesterday. NO ftf or fte. Recoil was not bad and accuracy was acceptable for the first time out at 8-10 yds., around 4" for 5 shot groups with umc, nato, magtech, and some unknown hp's I had in a box. Trigger pull is long, but crisp. It shot about 3" left and 4" low out the box, but sight adjustments corrected that.