i hunt out of a few old dead downed trees that fell years ago...nothing left but the trunks mainly..a few trees grew up in the pile and we lean on the downed trees and put up some sticks and logs we found around us to break us up more...we wear the minimal orange also...we are 2 miles back and barely see anyone back there so we arent worried about getting shot or anything...the area is a funnel and we set up so people using trails moving and coming in spook the deer in our direction and the come right by us so that helps that the really dont have many other options and are already running for their lives so they kinda let their guard down...first light they are very skittish and weary....but after about an hour or 2 they are snooping through trying not to get shot....most of the time they see us when its too late....weve taken 5 deer from there in 2 years hunting 3 days and only hunting a few hours each day....its a pretty productive hole...we dont wait for bucks or anything so that helps us get deer but we see about 5 deer an hour or so so its a pretty good spot id say...we also arent scent control freaks....i wash our clothes in plain water and dry them inside out because i heard the dryer will put UV on the outside...dont know if its true or not but i still do it....then i hang them on the line until dark just to get some outside scent and thats about it....we tried to find a spot that the wind is good but days it isnt we still hunt it..keep movement and noise to a minimal and you should be ok...heck my dad rustled a plastic bag to get a sandwhich and had to put down the sandwhich to shot a deer once...it works for us year after year.......good luck....deer hunting doesnt have to be all complicated...