OVERBOARD MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE
i wold have to agree with moutcaller about the 835
i started of with an indian creek and went to a jelly head and the jellyhead out proformed the indiancreek and i wll alaso say that i am comfortable out to 50 yards even though i believe i am capable of more with the hevishoot 3.5 but will not take it further then that and to be honest with you all i couldn't get a 3 in to pattern my gun and i will also say that my shoulder was sore tryin to find one that did when i should have just started with the hevi 3.5 to begin with