i have personally shot the new ice man and the admiral.. and shot IMO is not dicernable but the draw cylce is EXTREMELY ruff on the ice man IMO when compared to the admiral or other bows like hoyt and mathews. with that said.. its not something that i think i couldnt get used to after shooting it a few times.. but when i look for a bow to buy i dont look at price i look for a bow that speaks to me. price is not an option for me when buying. hope that helps.. if anything go shoot the bow.. and if you dont like it.. buy another bow and use all your points for the accessories and go a-wall on it lol