I almost went for the Summit Viper but went for the Lone Wolf Sit & Climb Wide model and I'm glad. It packs in like a dream and it's quiet. I did switch out the seat for an Ol Man mesh seat, it's lighter, easier to climb with, more comfortable and less to setup. I also like it because the front climb bar folds up under the seat so there is nothing in the way for bowhunting. I also like the adjustability of the traction belts. Lone Wolf stands do cost more MSRP is $429 for this climber but with all the stuff I end up buying for hunting an extra $100 is worth it.