Well guys, I read all these posts. And to be honest, I do not know any of you well enough to make any judgements. I do believe that Manyspurs may be a bit rough around the edges. But I also believe that what he was trying to tell this young hunter, al be it in a crude manner, was not to take a marginal shot. This young man lacks the experience that us older guys can relate to. And like the one poster said, don't force the shot, there is always tomorrow. You don't have to kill to have a successful hunt. The fact that you had a nice buck in bow range is an acomplishment in itself. It shows you are doing some things correctly. Just be patient, your chance will come.