LOL Big Country.... to be perfectly honest, no -- I never have. I always set mine by bottoming the limbs out and backing out an equal amount of turns like most other folks. But I figure anyone wanting to learn about tiller couldn't hurt themselves by at least perusing through the thread and seeing if they could pick up any pointers; that's why I mentioned it -- and the fact it has the most "tiller discussion" of any thread I'd seen in a long time.