Appreciate it guys. That is coming shortly though. I have always been told that near the harvest moon and a change in temperature can get the big bucks going. That is great b/c the harvest moon is Sunday and we are expecting temperatures that are in the upper 40's at night and 60's-70's during the day. This should start them up. I know last year the 9th of October is when I got a video of a 6 pt buck breed a doe. I can't wait. Another question. When using horns, calls and scents what order would you guys use. I had some luck at rattling in a 8 ptr last year, but haven't tried other things as much. I use scent killer and have some dominant buck urine and doe n heat ****, but don't really know the best way to use. The deer I have killed besides the 8 coming to horns have been just sitting and watching. I know you guys have to have some successful strategies at bringing that big buck out. Care to share?