No trail cameras, not enough dough. Wish I had some though would make things easier. Seen some nice bucks around seems like in bow season they are too far, black powder to far and rifle you never see them. I saw a 10 pt early this season with a inside spread around 18-20 inches, an 8 pt w/a 14-16 inch inside spread and another 8 pt that is about 15-16 inches tall but around 12 inches inside. Those are the nicer bucks that I have seen with my eyes on the land that I hunt. There are smaller bucks but I try to shoot only the mature bucks/messed up bucks. Also take out a few does. I will try your suggestions. Appreciate it.