thanx guys! sounds like i aughta order a box or 2 and see what they do for me!...sounds like they might be the ticket...being a 30" full choked bore, she throws a mighty tight pattern...im REALLY itchin to take her to a "turkey shoot" as with "fine" shot it patterned VERY VERY well...

im just looking to hunt upland birds with it without missing or blowing birds to pieces...and dont wanna ruin an original winchester...sounds like spreaders might be the way to go...