[QUOTE]We all know that AR on a statewide basis will never turn a state like PA into an Illinois, Wisconson or Iowa but it certainly has raised the bar and the results are indisputable.[QUOTE]

The results are not indisputable as you claim. ARs are like HR in that they benefit a small group of stakeholders at the expense of a much larger group. ARs make it easier for a very small percentage of hunters to harvest a buck that is one year older, while preventing many more hunters from taking a buck of their choosing.

Until you can produce PGC data that shows the rack sizes of 2.5+ buck have increased, that breeding rates and productivity have increased and that the breeding window has decreased, then it is indisputable that ARS have failed to produce the predicted results.