Originally Posted by spaniel

You're right, I don't cry about it, I just don't use it ;D

Personally I've found the 25ACP conversion to fix the crud ring issue in every rifle I've tried it in, takes 30sec to swab and I typically wait longer to let the barrel cool anyways, and I found out that I prefer manipulating the 25ACPs more than the 209s with cold hands during the season anyways.