Much of the state owned land around here is not opened to hunting ,and even less is open to gun hunters. By imposing ARs, they are no doubt, decreasing oprtunities for newbie hunters and discourage hunter participation, I just dont see how thats a good thing. There is strength in #s ,even if we think others standards are too low. We need more people on our side, cause theres just not enough of us hardcore hunters to support our own right to hunt, or even justify future seasons. Also IMO big state land should be for the newbie or casual"brown its down" hunter .If anything, its the hardcore elite hunters who should be knocking on doors and finding better places to hunt.

As far as whether ARswork or not, I havent seen it personally, and I d love to see any statistics of how theyve actually increased the average score,age or"quality" of the bucks harvested in ulster co. I know that the NJ state land that borders sterling forest NY, has had ARs for over a decade, and I still see tons of spike and forkies running around there and dead on the roadside. If you look at NJ outstanding deer program(big buck record book) very few of the 160+ entries are from land that borders SF, or northern jersey areas in general ,so I dont see how imposing ARs on the NY side is going to make one bit of difference. Heck, if anything I'd wager the SF side holds bigger deer.