Crenshaw is right about the case. Check out www.tuffpack.us. These are the cases that are round and don't look at all like a rifle case. You can put your gun (or bow) in a soft case and pack clothes around them - tough as nails. They are expensive ($300 +), but worth it in my opinion. Re: ammo with the guns, TSA regs don't prohibit that and several airlines websites say you can carry them together, but I have had airline personnel tell me they don't care what their website says - they can't go together. I've found it easier to just check the gun and ammo separately.