Thanks Red 5, he scored 167 5/8 had 15 scorable points, my best P&Y to date, I got a really nice 147 3/8 9 point the same year that was my best season because not only did I shoot them but I had opportunity to harvest two absolute monsters after I took those two and wished I still had a tag but did not so they walked. I took a monster 178 5/8 in 07 and I know there are at least 4-5 that will top that in the area including a absolute world class 6x5 with a 8-10" droptine not more than 1.4 miles from my ground, I have video footage of him. He has to be 190+, he has 4 or more mid 140's running with him and they look tiny next to him. Best buck I've seen in person in NY maybe ever. Let's hope I poke him.