Thanks for the tips guys!!!!!!!!
I have never been fall hunting and am still trying to get time to scout again, I have two areas I'm going to check out, the season is coming up fast.
I thought I would pattern them then lay in wait for them like I do in the spring. Busting them up I know works for hunters but not sure if I want to do that and hope they come back although it sound like more fun.
Good luck in the fall!