i just recently ordered two 308 rifles from wal mart, they were the new england firearms surviver's with the thumbhole stock and bull barrel. they cost $246.00 each plus tax, and took about 9 days to come in. i have not shot one of them but the other i put a simmons pro hunter scope on it, and shot federal 150grain hi shock ($14.97 a box). i got 1inch groups at 100 yards, for the money they can't be beat.