I went to the Bass Pro Fall Classic yesterday with intentions to buy a new climber, I sold my API Bowhunter to a buddy getting started in bowhunting. I looked at API, Summit, Old Man, Strongbuilt, and a few others. The Old Man and APIs were on sale pretty cheap, but I chose the Summit Cobra XLS. After tinkering around with it I think Ill like better than my API, its lighter and seems very stable. The Old Man seemed cheaply made and didnt look very stable, not to mention very long and looks hard to carry.