Denny you've met Jay so I respect your opinions,good or bad.

Pa Gobbler has not to my knowledge and neither has some of the close people he gets his information from.

I also found it somewhat interesting and distasteful that the topic was about crossbows but somehow Jay got dragged into this and Gobbler had the nerve to talk about 'someone elses' agenda.

Kinda had to get off his orginal topic to directly take a shot at someone to my knowledge hes never met but would sit down with him and talk issues anytime,anyplace,but its easier to do things this way.

I'm sorry too for getting off topic but I'm sick of seeing the crybabies whine over something they have the power to improve if they just used some different tactics other then personal attacks and character assination when the person they are attacking is very approachable and willing to work with anyone.

That doesnt mean he has all the answers but it also doent mean he deserves to be drug threw and slung mud all over either.Take care,Paul..