I usd the Renzo doe w/ a wash cloth tail soaed in doe urine. Worked like a chrm, had a buck come 300 yards across a field to check it out. Be careful though you can overuse these decoys and make the deer skittish about cxoming in. Also situate your stand so the deer has to vcome by you to check out the decoy, they seem to hang up about 20 yards from te decoy.