Like all areas if you want to see deer you need to hunt where they are, i have found that most folks hunting by my camp in 2F dont like to travel very far off the beaten path, however it may be also that i see older guys hunting up there. However being a college student i have only been able to make it up for the opener of rifle so havent applied for a doe tag up there. I go up for the experience of being at DEER CAMP with the elders in the family to share the time and hear the stories. Also, idk where exactly you all hunt there but i see deer every year. Granted it may only be 2 or 3 running down the mountain at 100 mph but i still see deer. i actually had a very nice 6 point (3 and 3) without brows about 17 inch wide come right in on me last yr however i forgot that it was only 3 on a side there and let him walk. Later that evening at camp i was kicking myself for not realizing my mistake earlier but oh well thats huntin.