I got to finally shoot it this afternoon. A buddy of mine runs an indoor pistol range, and I went there after hours. I don't plan on ever hunting without a scope but I had to sight in the iron sight just in case I ever need them. The rifle shot beautifully, I've been using a 30-06 and a 12 guage so long for deer that I forgot that a gun doesn't have to beat you up to be effective. The groups that I was getting were about 1" at 25 yards, and with my eyes that's good since I can't see the rear sight anymore.[&:] I used the ballistic calculator on the Norma website and with the 30-30 combo that I have, a 25 yard zero will also be sighted in at 100 yards. Now I just need to put a scope on it before deer season.