I bought a Wal-Mart Wby Vanguard in 300Wby a few years ago. I think they were on special for $378 if I remember right. 3X9 Leupy VXII and factory ammo gave me a little inside the 1.5" accuracy guarantee out of the box. Not the prettiest girl at the dance, but it dances OK... as has been stated before, good value for the money I think.....