ive got 2 vg's. ones got a 26 inch broughton 9 5c barrel and a lone wolf howler stock, 6.5-270wsm chamber, need i say more? the other is just a plain jane 270 wsm. i have killed deer at 515 (according to a lieca 1500) with the 6.5, my buddy has killed a deer at 513 with the 270 wsm(according to my bushnell yp 800 which i know cant read properly past 450) and i can hit milk jugs out 800 yards with the 6.5 oven on the worst of days