ORIGINAL: R.S.B.
ORIGINAL: J Pike
The reason no other state does, infact no one person for that matter,atleast anyone smarter than a 5th grader (other than you that is) does not calculate deer harvest per square mile is because it is totally useless to do so without excluding area's such as Philly. Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, York, Reading, Allentown, Lancaster, etc.,etc, etc., and other urban area's where deer hunting is not taking place. And for you to claim that PA. has a similar DD. as OH. is laughable considering the fact that 450,000 OH. deer hunters harvested around 70,000 less deer than 900,000 + PA. deer hunters did last season. Pike
You obviously haven’t been paying much attention to where the most deer per square mile are being harvested around this state. The areas around those cities are some of the highest deer harvest areas in the state. That is why many of them have to hire sharp shooters to the kill the deer the hunters can’t get enough of.
RSB. stop trying to spin everything, im not talking about the area's around those cities, im talking about the cities themselves.
For Example the city of York is approx 6 square miles in size and there isnt any deer being harvested within the city limits!!
Your other flaw in using deer harvest per sqaure mile is the state's of PA., NJ., OH., etc. all have different amounts of square miles of cities and towns were 0 deer live (again not talikng about the suburbs were deer are living in peoples back yards) so you are comparing apples to
oranges, for example a much higher % of the state of NJ. is paved and void of deer than PA.
RSB. Said""""""""""""""""And, I certainly can’t help it that Ohio doesn’t have as many hunters as Pennsylvania. I suspect even if we only had half as many hunters as we have in this state (about the same number as Ohio presently has) our deer harvests would still be about the same amount higher then Ohio’s harvest."""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
LMAO!!! If OH. had another 145,000 deer hunters (which would be a total of 595,000 deer hunters) they would have harvested more deer than our 900,000 + hunters did last season, and our hunters are armed with high powered rifles and we have a 2 week RIFLE season and OH. hunters only have a 9 day shotgun or inline season.
Also since PA. has alot more hunters hunting per square mile than OH. and creating alot more hunting preasure per square mile which as you know forces the deer to get on their feet and move (and a deer's odd's of being harvested are far greated when they are forced to move)
The less hunting preasure the higher % of the herd can stay bedded all day long during legal shooting hours and only move when using the cover of darkness!! ( I hate the word Nocturnal)
RSB. said """""""""""""""""""""""Pennsylvania deer season and methods are structured to get the desired number of deer harvested with 900,000 plus hunters just as the Ohio season and regulations are structured to get their desired harvest with only half that many hunters. If either state fails to get the desired harvest they will add seasons, bag limits or other options to the hunting tools to get that desired harvest, no matter how many or how few hunters they have. That same thing is true for every state, they will work with the number of hunters they have and provide them with the tools to reach their harvest objectives. States with fewer hunters just allow their hunters to take more deer per hunter, just as we do here in the special regulations areas.
Therefore, your arguments about the number of hunters in one state verses another is just a no point argument. Deer harvests and deer management is all based on getting the correct number of deer harvested regardless of how many hunters are participating in
that harvest objective."""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ""
Once again LMAO!! The PGC. isnt concerned if the herd is over harvested and the ODNR is each and every year. Also the PGC.'s bag limits, seasons, methods, antlerless tags issued etc. isnt much different than they were in 2002 but the 2002 deer harvest and the 2008 deer harvest sure is!!
RSB. can you or anyone else provide us with the total deer harvest for the 2002 season? Pike