I stopped using commercial urine scents once I tried the fresh stuff from local guys. YOu can really smell the difference in fresh urine vs. store bought. I cant see why any buck would come in to that old stuff you buy from walmart that has been on the shelf for a year.

I got a good friend in southern Illinois that sells urine.Its been fun helping him get started these last few years. Deer are a lot more work than I ever thought they would be.