wow them are some good reports...all i do it work anymore....havent gotten to the mountains since trout season!!!!maybe this weekend...i doubt it but im off sat at 9...so maybe.....ive heard on another board about the deer population is terrible this year and theres barely any bucks.....but i dont like that message board too much.....i go tehre for PA questions i ahve and thats about it.....glad to hear thats not how it really is......they hate the idea of all this new deer hunting and are probally just saying that to blam ARs ect.....all the bucks we passed last year grew to be bigger.....i bet there are more nice bucks taken this year then in previous years...indtead of driving down the road alot of camps are on and seeing spikes and 4pts and such you just might see more decint bucks....maybe not HUGE but an improvment......i cant wait to see the results in a few years if we keep them and we all do our honest part......