W&M' s, you sound a lot like the Powebelt guy. When I get my rifle back I' m going to try that. I failed to tell you in the first post the other troubles I encountered. With my first shot, the recoil chipped off a piece of the laminated stock. Then when I went to clean it, I was unable to get the breech plug out. I had disassembled it when I first purchased it. I felt it had an adequate amount of anti seize on it, and didn' t add any to it before replacing it. Guess I was wrong. My brother had done the same thing and he didn' t have the problems that I encountered. Before everyone starts to think I' m a real dope, they should know that I started back in probably Feb. trying to buy my firearm so I could practice all summer long. Well,,,,,,,, my buddy, the Traditions rep in the area told me to wait until this new model came out. I remember when he told me " Dean, don' t worry you' ve been hunting your entire life, this isn' t going to be a concern." Yeah right. When I purchased my 300 win mag a number of years ago for a trip to BC moose hunting. I practiced multiple times a week, six months in advance at long range shooting. Trac209, yes I was cleaning it in three shot patterns. That' s also something the Powerbelt guy mentioned. He said that a lot of the times those powerbelts will shot better out of a dirty gun. And no we didn' t wait five minutes between shots, but that would be next if I ever get that close! Thanks guys for the help.