18" or bust for me,. I know its not much but I have a friend from another site that can't hunt b/c of cancer. I told him its book for mb or bust..... really want a p&y for the guy. I'm holding out for the right one this yr. Enuf baits out to wait. Its gonna be a good yr...... my bait wasn't hit for aniother month last yr,....... I'm hunting in my sleep.