i can't believe most of what i read. i own a 3030 and a 243 as well as most other calibers. hit your target and boom they go down! if you are responsible with your shots a 3030 with take down anything this continent produces and i mean everything. it's a matter of where you are and where your target is and your skill as a rifleman. like everything else everyone wants the latest. you are not undergunned with a 3030. practice and it will serve up any meat you desire from deer to bear. happy hunting! it's funny years from now you will need a 50 caliber at least for pigs or brown bear! fads-fads-fads!!!!!!!! be a marksman and hunter.