northjeff, i have to ask, just because i haeen others write about it, what makes th up so different than other places, i have always wondered about that. where i live and hunt in n. vt, we endure deep snow, bitter cold) can drop to -40, as i am sure you do to, ) snow comes late oct, early nov., doesn' t leave untill may, thick woods, both hard and softwoods, less and less farming area each year. just curiuos about that. now, i have been in contact with dr. david gyunn, also on qdma' s board, and keith mccaffery, noted biologist and writer/speaker on whitetails, and have 2 different opinions about your fawn harvest, keith, like me, loathes qdm, but he says that a proper plan would include the taking of fawn does. dave, on the other hand, says to take only mature does, so i guess i wouldn' t know who t trust, but i am leaning towards keith. i don' t blame you for not wanting others on your propety, sounds like you have done a very nice job, working very hard to do what you have done. however, the one thing that concerns me is that those who conduct a qdm plan seem to have a " i' better than you " attitude, perhaps not you personally, but in general. also, just wondering, how many does are you allowed to shoot in mi.? or, since you are under a management plan, can the rules change for such plans? don' t know if i frased it right, but i think you know what i meant.