Ican flat out tell you the truth as God is my witness thatI took a bird at 62 yards with 110 grs of Pyrodex and a 3-1/2 shot wad full of #4 shot. I took the shot as all conditions were perfect, no wind, clear shot and I have practiced many times the shot. Does it kick absoletuly, but just remember to pack the stock tight against you and all I feel is a push with no jarring what so ever. When turkey hunting I have a turkey vest with a padded sling I use andI do not have an added recoil pad. You may want to custom cut your wad cups until you get a shot that feels comfortable. Take a 3-1/2" cup and cut it to 3/4, 1/2 in that size and see what happens. (They also make a 2-3/4" cup as well.) The full 3-1/2 holds 2-1/2 oz of shot, I use it and the results even at 20, 30 yards are devastating on birds, I have targets that look like you put your fist through it as the pattern is so tight. In my opinion and experience these are the best but you need to try all kinds of testing for your gun. I know a fellow that has one and does not use a wad cup, you load your powder, then a cardboard wad, your measured shot then an overcard and pack it tight then your ready to go. His patterns nice out to 30 yards. I have done testing out to 65 yards andI am confident in my loads on anything that crosses in between. I am also a bowhunter and shoot some extreme shots at 70 yards at targets but when deer come in at 20, 30 yards they seem like chip shots. The same is true in shooting guns. I only take the shot if everything is perfect and that has only happened once and maybe never again.

My long range load is 110 grainspyrodex
Remington Kleenbore 209 primer
3-1/2" shot cup filled with #4 shot
Shot card on top and packed as tight as you can get on the powder

I have shot many times with 120 grain of pyrodex but the results were similar to the 110 grains so I say save the powder.

When I first started I used 80 grains and the full 3-1/2" shot cup with #4 and had decent groups at 20 yards. The recoil was not bad all compared to a 50 caliber muzzy with 100 grains. If you plan on taking birds closer than 30 yards this load will be a good starting point. Keep in mind this works in my gun, your gun will have different results as all guns are made different even if producedone after the other.Good luck and post any results you may have.My turkey season starts the 20th and I am taking off work to take my dad who has never hunted turkey before.He is having an itch toshoot my TK so I might let him, might.