Thankds KitsapCaller. That answers it. Loner, I just switched to a StarDot choke (.668 ID) and have had poor patterns at long range (40 yds) and decent patterns at about 25-30. I never tried #6 shot tho, hear that does okay out of a Stardot choke... Going to try that when I get a chance. From your email, I guess you have had no problems shooting HeviShot out of your Stardot? I thought those were supposed to be for lead shot only? Maybe just the mfg. covering their backside...