I agree 100% Germain where there is public land.

What I was referring to in 2B is almost 100% private. The deer move away (onto land largely inaccessable to hunters) from pressure and go largely nocturnal. I think most guys from elsewhere cant begin to imagine the pressure that starts here after the statewide firearm season is over on the unposted land there is. We have a few localized spots where they hold that we can hunt and we do well with small drives in late season. Getting and keeping access, however, takes some creative year round effort.