You can find alotof used compounds at pawn shops and rumage sales for 25-50 bucks that work great. Old PSEs are nice and small and light as well as others. I like a compact light bow for shootin fish as usually have one hand stearingmy fan all the time. I use a golden eagle sparrow hawk (a youth bow 25 or 26") and my draw is 30.5. Ancor my hand under my chin kinda along my chest and cant my bow shooting off the shelf. Thats just what I'm comfortable with. WCL