As far as the draw is conerned, I'm talking relatively. I expected a pull worthy of it's name, and it was def less harsh than that. It's still a speed bow though. I think a 60 pounder would be pretty manageable for the woods.

Now maybe at 30" its really brutal, maybe it's quite sensitive to cam synch, (actually I'm sure that it will be), and of course yes we are all different, but I was really surprised the draw was as decent as it was. a 70 pound Xforce was FAR tougher on my muscles, as was the 82nd.

For you old dogs, it reminded me of the old Hoyt performa cams circa 1998 with a slightly nicer roll off into the valley.