RE: 450 to515
i just bought this gun. you're right about S&W getting it right. itsa great handgun. i paid $550 approximately. i shopped around before i bought it and thats the going price. budsgunshop.com has them $100 cheaper but i live in illinois and illinois gun laws make it difficult for me to buy handguns in another state. if you are thinking about buying one just buy it you wont be sorry