Pat thanks for the info, now I know why my bow took so long, old Chad had it trying to figure out if he liked it. Mine was a Marc special, Maccassar ebony riser and curly/birdeye maple limbs A real looker Chad told me the worlds supply of ebony was low and Marc had to ride his bike to South America, cut it down himself and carry it home on his back. Then he got flat tire on the way home in MS and was held up for a few days while he and a " friend" fixed it[>:]