Just as a hunter I was one Todd argued with year after year about Lone wolf tree stands. With me doing most of my hunting on State lands here in Michigan years ago there was no way I was going to spend that kind of money on a stand some squid was just going to steal on me anyway so it was off to and low budget store and man I had 15 $35 tree stands in my aresnal. Then Todd finally made me sit in one of his LW stands and the light came on, I could hang it in minutes it was easy as pie to walk it in and my fat a$$ wasn't scared to hunt higher than 12 feet with it because it was so rock solid. You know what, Wally only needed a couple of hang on"s that I have had for years now which if I added up all those stupid cheap suckers I was buying every year I could have owned about 6 LW hang on in that time, hunting better safer and quiter than I ever have inmy life I finally got it!!!!! Now come to present day Steve and I were going to do our first filming out of a ground blind I bought two years ago we went down and brushed it in two months early on the edge of the corn field and man we only needed a couple bag chairs with us we had them at camp. Well you know what we go out there to film our first night hunt and a couple little bucks and does come in and everytime I or Steve went to move those stupid chairs were squicking and makeing noise BYE BYE deer!! So you know how I ended up hunting that night off my knees!!!! I will be in a Huntmore stool where I can be quiet comfortable and hopefully seeing and keeping the deer we see close to us.. Walt