Do you all realize that S&W bought out TC 6 months a go? Even CVA has better customer service. I guess that's one of the reasons I was so disappointed when it turned out that Knights new gun turned out to be another short barrel over weight Bolt action, I have never understood what people want a bolt action for in a gun that has a breach plug. Oh well CVA has been steadily improving maybe they will come up with something besides acopy of somebody else's good gun. Lee