Brod man thanks for the info thats a nice looking rig but not crazy about the muzzlebrake.I have a savage model 16 270wsm with a brake and it will give u a headace for aweek if you shoot it with out ear plugs.also I kinda like the 26inch tube on the sps.There is a dicks about a hour from me if I get a chance I run up and checkout what the deal is on the od green stocks