In wait of a few books to read, I have been looking on line for info. One question I have come up with is WHY DID I NOT FIND A SCRAPE we scouted to the end of it and back tracked to find it again and to see it lead to a wooded flat with a creek and oaks though it to deeper woods . I did not see any more rubs I will go back to this area to scout more but I am going to try to get there from another direction to see if it might work better if the wind is different. Thanks for your advice.