I just bought 777 4 packs on sale at a local shop $20each, in hopes of shooting them in my Ph. But now with a alot of bad talk about it i wondering if i made a mistake. I only shot pyrodex before and maybe only 25 shots a sitting, and between shots wet-dry and never had a problem. So now with my new Genesis im lost on powder? Loose is cheap but pellets makes it easy on a hunter. Crud ring you call it.. im unaware what it looks like. I was brought up on pyrodex with my father and just never switched, he still uses RS even though i bought him a Blk diamond.. spilling a little each time. As hes getting older now i want him to shoot pellets so i was really looking towards the 777 to perform well and he would want to switch.