yea it sickens me after awhile. everyone brags these deer hunters up and down like they're the best thing since sliced bread... but in reality any bowhunter could do just as well or even better if they were plopped in a stand with 160 in deer running around on the property or whatever. i was watching a dvd the other day when well known, well respected hunter shot a buck. it was quaretering straight toward him, and he must have nicked a part of one lung. stupid, when all he had to do was wait ten more seconds til it was broadside.