Whatever MichaelP, I'm not nor did I say anything to start a debate with you. I know exactly what crossbows are capable of, I hunted a few years with Cardeer, you probably don't know him as he was the 69th member here on this board and I am the 76th so it was before your time. Anyway he hunts with a crossbow and taught me all about them. I'm not ignorant about crossbows, maybe about a lot of other thingsbut I know what they can and cannot do. No argument here. If it's a legal hunting weapon and you want to hunt with it do so, you don't have to come on here and defend yourself, at least not with me.